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Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: Ita » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:26 am

Howdy...

I've located a XS1100 rear wheel. 17x250 7 spoke and I was wondering if anyone has knowledge of fitting one to a 1996 750? Cheers.

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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: Jake » Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:20 am

Even if the final drive was the same ( it’s not ), I don’t believe you’ll have enough room to fit a 17 inch wheel.
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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: Hellgate » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:39 pm

You can look up the tire dimensions here:

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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: Ita » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:11 am

Jake wrote:Even if the final drive was the same ( it’s not ), I don’t believe you’ll have enough room to fit a 17 inch wheel.


Thanks Jake... I had a closer read for the XS1100 forums and you are 100% right. The diversion conversion has been done, but requires lots of work! I'm not keen on the Diversion 3 spoke rear wheel, but there seems to be little other option to move up from my 15" rear wheel...

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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: faffi » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm

You can fit a 17in wheel from an xs11, and there is room, but it will require quite a bit of machining since the couplers are very different.

If you want a cast wheel, the XJ900 Diversion wheel is 17x4.00 and should bolt right on to your Gen2, although you must convert to disc brake. If you had a Gen1 and wanted the wheel centered, you would need to machine it a little.

Another option is to get a hub from the Euro version with wire wheels and hook it up to a 17*4.00 rim off a XTZ1200. This will retain your stock drum brake and allow you to use tubeless tires.
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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: Ita » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:49 pm

Thanks Faffi... Coz I’m running the 08 5 straight spoke R1 front I was steering away from the 3 spoke Diversion wheel, but it seems to be my only (easiest) option. The joys of a project bike! LOL.

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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: faffi » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:35 am

Well, you could go for the BT1100 rear wheel, which is 5.00x17 and five spokes. However, I do not know how it lines up, how much offset there is, or if it can be used at all - you will have to try it out or at least get some measurements from a breaker or similar. http://motorcyclebrand.blogspot.com/201 ... cycle.html

NOTE: The Gen2 Viragos have their rear wheel offset 20mm to the right of the front from the factory. The Kawasaki ZRX1200 has its rear wheel offset a similar amount. Lots of BMWs came and come from the factory with offset wheels. It has next to no impact on handling, it is only visual. So as long as you can make a subframe that sits directly above the wheel, nobody will know, not even you, from looking at the bike.
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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: Ita » Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:33 am

Thanks again Faffi, you truly are a wealth of information... The BT wheel looks exactly what I want! I'll start researching. Your info on front to rear offset is an eye opener! I assumed all motorcycle wheels ran +/- 0 degrees center to center!

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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: faffi » Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:45 am

One would think so, but apparently it is not as important as logic indicates.
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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: Ita » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:44 am

So Faffi.... I'm in need of your knowledge again. I've been looking at final drives for the BT1100 the Diversion 900 and my 96 XV750. They are all marked with the part #4H 700. I assume this is a good thing if I'm leaning towards a BT1100 rear wheel. Are there other considerations...

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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: faffi » Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:02 pm

Not quite sure what you are asking, but the xj900 Diversion and the BT1100 use the same part number for the coupler between wheel and final drive and hence they will fit to the final drive unit of every Virago from 700 to 1100cc, plus the unit on the XVS1100. The only uncettainty is how the wheel will fit inside the swingarm, meaning how it is centered.

The XJ650/750/900, BT1100 & 900 Diversion naturally also use the same interface between wheel and drive unit.

Hope l mansged to answer your question.
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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: Ita » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:20 pm

Thanks Faffi, you did answer my question... I’ll start researching rear wheel offsets and do some measurements on my bike when Covid restrictions are eased here. Thanks again.

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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: faffi » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:41 am

Glad if l could help :cl:
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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: Ita » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:14 am

faffi wrote:Glad if l could help :cl:


Hi Faffi...

https://www.boonstraparts.com/en/part/y ... 0001014565

I've found this, but for the life of me I can't find any info on offsets. I've sent Nanno a PM, but I might just have to bite the bullet and import it if the fees aren't ridiculously high...

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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: nanno » Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:52 am

faffi wrote:Not quite sure what you are asking, but the xj900 Diversion and the BT1100 use the same part number for the coupler between wheel and final drive and hence they will fit to the final drive unit of every Virago from 700 to 1100cc, plus the unit on the XVS1100. The only uncettainty is how the wheel will fit inside the swingarm, meaning how it is centered.

The XJ650/750/900, BT1100 & 900 Diversion naturally also use the same interface between wheel and drive unit.

Hope l mansged to answer your question.


In which case I can report (first hand) an XJ650 wheel is a straight fit onto an XV750 shaft drive.
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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: Ita » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:04 am

OK... Thanks Faffi and Nanno :GJ: I really appreciate your feed back.

The shipping for the wheel about doubles the cost :ops: but it seems no one has tried this conversion before so I'll have a crack and see how it works out.

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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: faffi » Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:43 am

If it works, and it should from what I know, you will have the coolest wheeled Virago on the planet :cl:
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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: blackiex » Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:19 pm

Unless there's too much offset due to the difference in shaft position between the XV and BT/XVS blocks.
Can't tell, never tried. But the front bevel drive is further to the left on the newer engines, by nearly 20 mm if memory serves.

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Re: Rear Wheel... XS1100?

PostAuthor: Ita » Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:54 pm

Thanks for the continued input guys. The wheel is on the way, currently stuck in Singapore due to Covid. I’m stuck 1200kms from my bike due to Covid travel restrictions, but will hopefully be able to travel before Christmas and see how it lines up…. An expensive lesson if it doesn’t work, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. :bg:

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