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Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start(SOLVED)

PostAuthor: Barberetti » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:14 pm

Hey all,

So I'm riding my 1994 xv535 and this irregular rattling sound starts. I pull over and have a listen and it sounds like it's coming from the front of the engine near the starter motor. I know I should have turned it off right there, but I'm about a mile from my dads, and also looking to buy a new bike anyway, so figured what the hell. Just made it to my dad's and there's a louder clang sound, smell of burning for a few seconds and the bike stutters for a few seconds. After that, no more rattling at all, so I pulled onto the driveway and turned the engine off.

Now the bike won't start. There's a whirring sound but no spark from either plug. Pulled the starter motor off and opened it up and that's fine. Figured I'd check it just to make sure, as that's where it sounded like the rattling was coming from initially.

Any ideas?
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Re: Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start

PostAuthor: mark75 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:15 pm

Barberetti wrote:Hey all,

...
Now the bike won't start. There's a whirring sound but no spark from either plug. ...

Any ideas?



is the engine turning over / cranking? or only the starter spinning?

possibly you may have shed your starter clutch >>> https://www.mrcycles.com/oemparts/a/yam ... ter-clutch

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Re: Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start

PostAuthor: bstig60 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:35 am

:yup: 535's have a habit of sheering the pins on the starter clutch, https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamah ... ter-clutch
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Re: Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start

PostAuthor: Barberetti » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:40 pm

Well that's easy enough to check so I guess I know what I'll be doing tomorrow. Thanks for the replies guys :):
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Re: Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start

PostAuthor: mark75 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:50 pm

let us know how it goes.
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Re: Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start

PostAuthor: faffi » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:43 am

To me it sounds like the starter engaged during the ride, be that the mechanism only or also starter motor. Continuing to run the engine with the starter engaged is never a good idea. My son did that once with his old Volvo, and he was very lucky only to ruin the starter motor and pinion, while the flywheel gear ring was intact.
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Re: Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start

PostAuthor: Cusstout 1100 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:46 pm

:yup: Same experience with a '61 Volvo 544, except it happened at highway speed and burned out the wiring harness. (Wonder if Volvo had a history of this, having heard faffi's reference....and not trying to jack this thread, just confirming that having the starter engage is not a good thing!)
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Re: Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start

PostAuthor: faffi » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:48 pm

Could well be a Volvo issue :ops: Yours was a B16, I presume? His was a B20. Still similar configuration, although quite different in detail.
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Re: Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start

PostAuthor: Cusstout 1100 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:48 am

Faffi, sent you a PM to avoid thread jacking.
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Re: Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start

PostAuthor: Barberetti » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:41 pm

Hey all,

Yeah, shed the starter cluch. Got if off today after my balance puller finally arrived. Just ordered a replacement off Ebay so hopefully I'll be back on the road next week sometime :bg:

Thanks again everyone :thanks:
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Re: Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start

PostAuthor: mark75 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:20 pm

so we should mark this as Solved?
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Re: Rattling noise then pop. Now bike won't start

PostAuthor: Barberetti » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:48 pm

Yes please!
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