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[ KB ] Starter clutch and idler gear fixing video

PostAuthor: Matthew » Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:25 pm

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Article Name: Starter clutch and idler gear fixing video
Author: mrbios
Description: Starter clutch and idler gear fixing video

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PostAuthor: mikej43 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:12 am

Only about 15 seconds of the clip are in the 1mpg file, is ther more on the process ?

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PostAuthor: mrbios » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:52 pm

mikej43,

I'm not sure what your question is? Did you download the entire video?

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Re: [ KB ] Starter clutch and idler gear fixing video

PostAuthor: carl » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:31 am

Informative video, thanks

I noticed at the end there is a shot of the underside of the crankcase.
My questions is what is the stuff that looks like plumbers putty running down the crankcase split.??
Is it there to stop leaks, and if so does it work??

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Re: [ KB ] Starter clutch and idler gear fixing video

PostAuthor: mrbios » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:15 am

carl";p="85762 wrote:Informative video, thanks

I noticed at the end there is a shot of the underside of the crankcase.
My questions is what is the stuff that looks like plumbers putty running down the crankcase split.??
Is it there to stop leaks, and if so does it work??

Carl


The grey stuff is standard automotive store loctite epoxy.

There was oil leaking from there. I'm not quite sure why but I have some theories: 1. it appears that the the motor might have been removed at one time and split. I replaced the clutch a few weeks ago and I noticed that two giant ~ 32mm bolts had the tab bend down by some backyard hacker.

2. Virago's have very soft coil springs. A few weeks ago I rebuilt the front forks. There were marks on the belly of the motor from bottoming out from the previous owner (PO). After applying the loctite epoxy it reduced the center leak a lot. A year or so later I saw fresh marks and my friend said he bottomed out going off a side walk over a curb. That scraped off some epoxy and the leak started again.

It is important to really clean the bottom well then use brake cleaner, then sand and dry and apply epoxy. It's worth doing.

Paul

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Re: [ KB ] Starter clutch and idler gear fixing video

PostAuthor: dfrank » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:50 pm

Matt,
sure appreciate your efforts, been riding Viragos for about five years, you videos answer a lot of questions and point out the things I have been missing, Currently putting a 98 engine in a '90 1100, most helpful. thanks

Dave, Galion, Ohio

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PostAuthor: Matthew » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:20 pm

Its mrbios's video, I just posted it.
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Re: [ KB ] Starter clutch and idler gear fixing video

PostAuthor: mrbios » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:11 am

dfrank";p="92211 wrote:Matt,
sure appreciate your efforts, been riding Viragos for about five years, you videos answer a lot of questions and point out the things I have been missing, Currently putting a 98 engine in a '90 1100, most helpful. thanks

Dave, Galion, Ohio


I'm glad the video was / is helpful. I learned a lot while doing it. I also did a big rennovation on my bmw and on the virago this fall. I rebuilt the virago forks - polished the pits in the tubes and treated both the main and reserve gas tanks with Kreem. Some time either I or Joe Monzo will try to get a summary of the work on to the virago forum. The Kreem really works if you do the prep and use muriatic acid to etch the metal and disolve rust. Joe's virago - the one in the video has around 45K miles on it now!

Matt, thanks for getting the link out to owners that are trying to keep their bikes going strong or just going, lol.

Take care virago owners!

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PostAuthor: Matthew » Tue May 25, 2010 1:36 am

anyone got a copy of this movie still?
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Re: [ KB ] Starter clutch and idler gear fixing video

PostAuthor: Jake » Tue May 25, 2010 8:36 pm

I have it Matt.

I have in original Quicktime format at 223MB ( 219MB zipped ) or avi at 104MB ( 102MB zipped )

Something went wrong with the conversion to avi and I can't use Windows Media Player for viewing, but VLC works fine.
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PostAuthor: Matthew » Tue May 25, 2010 9:14 pm

upload 1 that works well into this thread.

Or maybe it was just me but the original link in the top didn't work for me?
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Video - Download a free copy from my website.

PostAuthor: mrbios » Tue May 25, 2010 9:51 pm

Matthew";p="207682 wrote:anyone got a copy of this movie still?


1. Go to to my website:
Click HERE

2. Depending on your browser - right click on "Yamaha_Virago_1100_Starter_Project_MPEG1.mpg" [630MB] and choose "Save As" to save your own copy. The file is quite large and wil require a cable or DSL high speed modem.

If you really wanted a DVD I could burn one and mail it to you for $5 to cover postage & effort. The format of the movie on my website is MPEG1 (a lower quality version of DVD which uses MPEG2 format). I chose MPEG1 for reduced size and it plays on most PC's and MAC's unlike MPEG2 which requires a separate codec to be installed.

Do the same thing for still photos and links:
"Yamaha_Virago_1100_1993_PHOTOS.zip" [328MB]

If you have trouble send me an email - my address is in my profile on this site.

Three years after making this video my friend's virago is still running great - no problems with the Kreamed gas tank or starter clutch, starts perfect ever time. I will make a video update at some point.

Paul Cofrancesco
aka MrBios

Photos are currently uploading and will finish in about 1 hour.

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PostAuthor: Jake » Wed May 26, 2010 8:16 pm

Well I started uploading the video file over 3 hours ago and it's time to give up. Maybe I'll try another time.have it reformatted the wmv 105 MB.
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PostAuthor: Matthew » Wed May 26, 2010 8:26 pm

do ya have hi speed?

it should only be as slow, as your connection, since it goes right to the main server.
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PostAuthor: Matthew » Wed May 26, 2010 8:27 pm

But were good since he posted a new download link.
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PostAuthor: mrbios » Wed May 26, 2010 11:03 pm

Matthew";p="208020 wrote:do ya have hi speed?

it should only be as slow, as your connection, since it goes right to the main server.


My website is hosted on ipower which got bought out and after that they started to throttle bandwidth. When I tested the link it provided about 500KB/sec or 1/2 Megabyte per second. The problem I realized is I should have zipped the file so it would offer to download rather than play the move. If you just click on the movie it starts playing in the browser after about 1 minute. Because the file is so large it can jam in the browser. It is best to download your own copy that way you can play it on a laptop in your garage and not need internet access.

If anyone wants a copy on DVD email me an address and $5 and I will mail a disc and you can make and distribute as many copies as you like to fellow virago owners.

Enjoy!

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PostAuthor: RickC » Thu May 27, 2010 2:01 pm

I didnt download this file yet but... will this work on my 85 xv700?? I bought a shim kit in past and ruined a starter.. boought new starter and left the g clip on the #2 clip and Im still having the same rock and rattle when trying to start her... I was going to buy a new #2 idler gear and #2 clip and compression spring...... I dont want to ruin my flywheel so i need to fix this before I can continue riding..
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Will it the fix work on an 85 xv700 - I'm not sure

PostAuthor: mrbios » Thu May 27, 2010 3:09 pm

RickC";p="208153 wrote:I didnt download this file yet but... will this work on my 85 xv700??......


Rick, I'm almost sure this will work on your bike but I recommend calling
your local yamaha dealer - and asking them to get in touch with yamaha tech. You should also download and look at the photos which provide a lot of detail.

At $400 the parts aren't cheap but if yamaha tech says they will work on your bike then this will solve your problem once and for all and you will never revisit this problem. My friends xv1100 now has around 65,000 miles and since doing the repair three years ago has never experienced even one mistart!

Good luck and if they work on your bike please post that and I will update the video.

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Re: Will it the fix work on an 85 xv700 - I'm not sure

PostAuthor: Jake » Thu May 27, 2010 3:38 pm

mrbios";p="208161 wrote:. You should also download and look at the photos which provide a lot of detail.PaulC aka mrbios
Paul, I hate to tell you this, But I downloaded your pictures last night. A rather large zip file at 321 MB. The file was corrupted and therefore useless.

As I typed this post, the second download has finished and it is also corrupted.

After looking at the downloaded file size, I realized that this
tagedieb";p="208183 wrote: Transfer disconnects halfway through. A decent download manager will handle this fault and resume.
is what happened. I switched to Opera and when I got a download error message, I resumed the download and all was good. I would warn all that a lot in the file is not about the starter fix.
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Re: [ KB ] Starter clutch and idler gear fixing video

PostAuthor: tagedieb » Thu May 27, 2010 6:10 pm

Thanks much for the videos/images, very helpful.

Unfortunately, the hosting service for the files sucks. Not your fault. Transfer rate is indeed ~500 Kbps. Transfer disconnects halfway through. A decent download manager will handle this fault and resume.

Again, thank you much.
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