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Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Joker » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:36 pm

I'm sorry to ask what is probably a very common question but I have been to 4 different paint shops, trawled the internet and I am not confident I have the clear information I need. It's one of those "close enough is good enough" scenarios, I don't need to repaint the tank only the front and rear fenders. Here's the info I have, bike is:

1993 XV1100E Virago (not the California model, the Australian one)
VIN starts is JYA3EGT0

Here's a photo of the steed. Anyone who can give me the paint code, I'll love you forever. I've stumbled across greenish blues, metallic greenish blue, dull green... no idea which is the right one and nobody gives me samples to compare I have to buy first which is really frustrating. Really appreciate any help.

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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Jake » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:14 am

I don’t know if your color is on this chart or not http://www.venturerider.org/paint/Paint ... 00001.html

I have a much better data base on my PC, but unfortunately, I’m out of the country at present and won’t be home for another 4 or 5 days.
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Joker » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:46 am

Thanks mate I did find that one, on page 13 it's got the XV1100E but only a black colour. I thought it might come under the 1994 scheme, if it's correct, on page 10 it's got a "dull greenish blue" yet it's the model after, the XV1100F. Hence I'm not sure if it's accurate, I've found several green/blue variants.

If you've got a better database would really appreciate the help when you get back. Thanks for that.
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Jake » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:53 am

Joker wrote:
1993 XV1100E Virago (not the California model, the Australian one)
VIN starts is JYA3EGT0




What is the 10th character in the VIN ? It should be a letter, that will give us the year of manufacture.

I ask, because a ‘92 1100 is v-max blue
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Jake » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:56 am

Jake wrote:
Joker wrote:
1993 XV1100E Virago (not the California model, the Australian one)
VIN starts is JYA3EGT0




What is the 10th character in the VIN ? It should be a letter, that will give us the year of manufacture.

I ask, because a ‘92 1100 is v-max blue


The engine ser. no. can also tell us the year, provided it hasn’t been replaced.
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: bstig60 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:57 am

Perhaps this link will help.... My 99 has a sticker under the seat on the frame rail with the paint code. It should also be identified in the VIN. https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/ ... olor-codes
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Joker » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:27 am

Jake wrote:
Joker wrote:
1993 XV1100E Virago (not the California model, the Australian one)
VIN starts is JYA3EGT0




What is the 10th character in the VIN ? It should be a letter, that will give us the year of manufacture.

I ask, because a ‘92 1100 is v-max blue


"R"
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Joker » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:31 am

Jake wrote:
Jake wrote:
Joker wrote:
1993 XV1100E Virago (not the California model, the Australian one)
VIN starts is JYA3EGT0




What is the 10th character in the VIN ? It should be a letter, that will give us the year of manufacture.

I ask, because a ‘92 1100 is v-max blue


The engine ser. no. can also tell us the year, provided it hasn’t been replaced.


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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Jake » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:59 am

Joker wrote:
"R"


The “R” tells me it was manufactured in 1994. The tank badge suggests it is earlier than 1995, so I’d say offhand, it’s a ‘94.

Unfortunately the VIN and engine number don’t help me, as I said most of my stuff is at home. Different VINs for different parts of our globe.

You can try this VIN decoder http://en.vindecoder.pl/JY4AM09Y17C012831
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Joker » Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:50 pm

Interesting. The VIN does come up with 1994, the Australian build date (on our standards compliance plate which is put on all vehicles) is 8/1993.

So in the scheme of things this gives me relatively good confidence in the document highlighted that it is the 1994 model green. Thanks for the help, wish me luck!
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Jake » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:00 pm

A good paint shop should have a color scanner, where a good sample of what you need, for instance the side cover looks to have good paint, can be scanned and the color can be duplicated sometimes perfectly.
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Joker » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:19 am

See this is what I expected too. I went to 3 specialist paint shops and they all tried to do it "by eye" in some manual colour swatch book, and I'm not going to gamble that... one dude said he could put it in a machine but only if I had a perfectly flat piece the size of a mobile phone... yeh good luck with that mate, the bike doesn't have fairings.

So yeh that's why I ended up having to ask for help, I never thought it would be this annoying a process lol
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Jake » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:37 am

Any tech worth his salt can match by eye, I used to do it and was quite good at it.

You first start with something close, test the color against the sample and add various pigments and amounts to achieve the final result. Experience and a good eye for color is needed to know what the various pigments will do to what you are working with.

Granted, what I did was architectural and industrial, I don’t know if they can do that with automotive paints.
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Jake » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:13 am

Any luck with this ?

I'm back home now and what I see for the 1994 XV1100 is color " DULL GREENISH BLUE METALLIC 1 " Color code " 0158 ".
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Re: Just another colour code question...

PostAuthor: Joker » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:28 pm

Yes sorry I have been mucking around with it for a few days.

Yes you're right, the code I had verified was 158 also so I got a can made up BUT unfortunately it was incorrect. Yamaha have used a repeat code, and what I got was a much more blue variant from the 2010 model.

So I had it colour matched "by eye" and am happy report that E3120 (Azul Bruma metallic) was a good match. It's probably a more rich colour than the tank (which is the only thing I'm not repainting as it's in such good condition) but I don't think it will be noticeable to anyone else.

Thanks for the input everyone. :thanks:

Note: the place I went to looked after me, it was one of those unfortunate "bad luck" sorta situations so they gave me a 15% discount on the additional cans.
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