Forum Donations
Search
VTF Google Search
 Click Here

The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

Chop it, rake it, slam it, build it for show.
New parts, old parts, built from scrap. [Hammered out of bare stock & welded with sweat.]
  • Advertisement

Post a reply

The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:32 pm

Mod edit: This thread is continued from :

The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 2 viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60753


spectra wrote:Nice score :o: I just painted my final drive gloss black.........the rest of the frame is powder coated........I did not want to mess with taking it part as the heat would mess things up in the curing process........I think its 400 plus degrees cant remember exactly though........


Yeah you're absolutely right. I think I'll paint it too. Can you share your technique? Did you remove the factory paint or just paint over it?
Last edited by Jake on Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Topic split after 5 additional pages

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 2

PostAuthor: spectra » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:05 pm

wrenchguy wrote:
spectra wrote:Nice score :o: I just painted my final drive gloss black.........the rest of the frame is powder coated........I did not want to mess with taking it part as the heat would mess things up in the curing process........I think its 400 plus degrees cant remember exactly though........


Yeah you're absolutely right. I think I'll paint it too. Can you share your technique? Did you remove the factory paint or just paint over it?


I cleaned up the rear drive with de greaser and a wire wheel on my drill. And as for paint I use SEM trim black for a lot of small parts. They make it in gloss and semi gloss. I used the gloss as it matches the powder pretty well. Being a cast piece you can tell but looks good at 5 feet. Alos only thing with the SEM that sucks is its not gas resistant..........

spectra
Junior Membership
Junior Membership
 
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:58 pm
Location: NW In the great state of WA Flag
Bike year & model: 83 XV920
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 2

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:55 am

spectra wrote:
wrenchguy wrote:I cleaned up the rear drive with de greaser and a wire wheel on my drill. And as for paint I use SEM trim black for a lot of small parts. They make it in gloss and semi gloss. I used the gloss as it matches the powder pretty well. Being a cast piece you can tell but looks good at 5 feet. Alos only thing with the SEM that sucks is its not gas resistant..........


Thanks for the tip- I'll have to use a paint stripper because of the nasty rattle-can job on the final drive.

i was able to remove the swingarm from the donor bike with a little difficulty- I ran into the dreaded stuck shaft pivot bolt issue that some people on here have- I shot plenty of PB blaster on it, let it soak overnight and used a giant crowbar to encourage it to come out.

Going to drop off the swingarm, cover plate, and brake plate shoe at the sandblaster on Monday, then off to the PC outfit I use. I'll work on the final drive myself- strip the paint, etch then spray it.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:55 pm

Got the swingarm back from the blaster, and found a hole that was exposed by the blasting process. I've read that virago swingarms suffered, in the words of a poster: "some of the worst welding ever to escape Japan."

I assume this is structurally not a concern.

However, how do I cover it up so that PC will stick to it, and the substance will survive the heating process? I've read that regular JB Weld will hold up under the heating but it's not a metal substance and so will not electromagnetically attract the powdercoat.

Any suggestions? Or should I just cover it up after the PC has been done?

hole.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:52 am

Wonder if I could repair it using an aluminum brazing rod?

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:04 am

virago.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:10 am

Took her out on her maiden voyage yesterday. Kicks like a strong mule.

Been working off all the small things, one by one.

Lash valve adjustments- inlet to .010 and outlet to .015 Was too tight on both cylinders.

Sync'ed carbs using EMGO carb synchronizers that I had, but I made the stupid mistake of syncing up the carbs in the shed, and both headers got very hot, and the exhausts got blued, so lesson learned- when you sync carbs, have a fan blowing on the motor, because it's after all, an air-cooled motor. I'm eventually going to replace the exhaust with custom ones, but the resale value of what I have on now just plummeted.

Put in brake fluid and now bedding in the pads slowly.

One last thing to do- hook up the speedo and then it's off to get the bike registered and inspected.

Thanks to everyone on here that helped me to get to this point, without all your help and input, this build would not have been possible. I'm grateful.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: spectra » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:54 am

wrenchguy wrote:Wonder if I could repair it using an aluminum brazing rod?


Dont think it would stick. The frame is steel. If it was me I would either find someone to weld it up for you or just powder coat it and silicone the hole after.

spectra
Junior Membership
Junior Membership
 
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:58 pm
Location: NW In the great state of WA Flag
Bike year & model: 83 XV920
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: Jake » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:54 pm

wrenchguy wrote:Wonder if I could repair it using an aluminum brazing rod?


Brazing may work. You’ll need a Mapp gas torch and flux coated brazing rods.
_______________________________________________________________________
“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you in trouble.
It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.”

~Mark Twain


There is an old Chinese proverb - "Man with one watch knows the time. Man with two, not sure."
User avatar
Jake
Mod
Mod
 
Posts: 12554
Images: 108
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:18 pm
Location: Penn's Forestland otherwise known as Pennsylvania Flag
Bike year & model: 1996 XV750
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:43 am

I decided to have that hole MIG'ed and sent to the PC folks.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: Mr Biggz » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:26 pm

Wrenchguy,

That is one gorgeous bike!! One of my fave builds I've seen. Please message me if you make a YT channel.

A few questions for you:

1. What did you do with the Choke Cable? Did you mount it?
2. What is that material on the battery? The strips of padding? What is it called/where did you buy it from?
3. For your subframe, did you have a machine shop build the bars that the seat is mounted on?

Thanks in advance for your time!

Al

Mr Biggz
Junior Membership
Junior Membership
 
Posts: 30
Joined: Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:55 am
Location: Northern California (Bay Area) Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago XV920J
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:48 pm

Mr Biggz wrote:Wrenchguy,

That is one gorgeous bike!! One of my fave builds I've seen. Please message me if you make a YT channel.

A few questions for you:

1. What did you do with the Choke Cable? Did you mount it?
2. What is that material on the battery? The strips of padding? What is it called/where did you buy it from?
3. For your subframe, did you have a machine shop build the bars that the seat is mounted on?

Thanks in advance for your time!

Al


Hey Al,

Thanks, glad you like it.

1) I haven't dealt with the choke yet. Haven't had to use it.. the bike fires right up every time. I do have an idea that I'll continue to work on when I have time.
2) It's regular foam tape from Home Depot. I wrapped it around the battery to reduce stress on it due to vibration. For some reason, vibration causes lithium batteries to drain faster than normal or just lose life quickly.
3) Yes, unfortunately it was the same shop that botched up the initial build and they botched up the seat mount. It's hideous, a T bar welded to a square rod and it doesn't even line up properly and it isn't level. I'm going to have to find someone to fab me a good seat mount, at some point.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:52 pm

Still working on bits and pieces.. trying to improve the bike.

I can't believe this is the OEM kickstand.. it can't be. Anyone know of a good AM kickstand that would fit on a Virago 920 frame?

KS.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: spectra » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:28 pm

Well...........its bent and yes its the OEM one.............

Hell if you were on the left coast like me..........I could weld whatever you wanted on in the right spot the first time :bg:

spectra
Junior Membership
Junior Membership
 
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:58 pm
Location: NW In the great state of WA Flag
Bike year & model: 83 XV920
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: uncleromo » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:32 pm

Chrome xv700 kicks stand can be made to fit. Looks much better.

UR
UR

XV 981J
User avatar
uncleromo
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 409
Images: 23
Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:27 pm
Location: Brentwood, CA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 XV920J
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:35 pm

Thanks.. will use the kickstand from the donor bike for now.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:39 pm

Swingarm stuff came back from the PC folks.

swingarm.JPG


Drained final drive oil by jury-rigging a funnel with a bolt hanging on the other side.

drain.JPG


Final drive off and ready for stripping- seems to be in good shape, no rust, etc.

finaldrive.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:46 pm

Stripped and ready for paint:

stripped.JPG


masking.JPG


I used citristrip in a spray can- let it sit for 30 minutes, scrap off, then another coat for another 30 minutes, wipe off. Then I went over everything with a brass wire wheel.

Then once more over everything with mineral spirits, followed by denatured alcohol to remove oil from accidental touching.

And as Spectra warned, the final drive is a cast aluminum piece, so you're not going to get a smooth, glossy surface without wet sanding between coats and that's what I"m doing now.

But first, be sure to hit it with self-etching primer (since it's aluminum) then top coat of your choice. I am using Rustoleum engine enamel because it's resistant to gas and oil.

So for the next week I'll be laying coats and wet-sanding in between, then finish with polish, and top off with wax to hopefully achieve a deep glossy black look.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:54 pm

In the meantime, ordered a bunch of OEM stuff for the swingarm- new bushings, bearings, seals, and covers. I greased both the pivot shaft and dowel in high-temperature red grease before installing them.

oem.JPG


The swingarm is back on:

seals.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male

Re: The "poor judgment" cafe project: '83 xv920 Part 3

PostAuthor: wrenchguy » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:57 pm

SA.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

wrenchguy
Senior Membership
Senior Membership
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm
Location: MA Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 Virago xv920j
Sex: Male


Next

Post a reply


  • Advertisement

Return to Virago Help - Choppers Customs Café

Who is online

Registered users: Baidu [Spider]