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PostAuthor: JSF » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:20 pm

Being a long time biker (40+years) and the new owner of a previously not too well maintained 2005 XV250, I found myself looking at something that I have not seen except on my lawnmowers...the virago 250 oil-soaked foam air cleaner element. I was not impressed. The element was disintegrating and could not be working very efficiently -- this thing was not going to say on my bike! However, I was somewhat shocked to find no real aftermarket paper filters for the bike....so....looking around this is what I found... a Mr. Gasket 4" (and other similar brands) air cleaner kit (for a car I assume)...

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The element is exactly the right size and the top cover fits perfectly....


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I wanted something that fit within the original air cleaner housing since I like the stock look.

Bike runs perfectly with this at all speeds and it is a thrifty value at around USD$12. The replacement elements are about USD$6. These kits seem to be available at most auto parts stores and at many places online ...

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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: Tom Boyte » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:53 pm

JSF,
Firstly, Welcome Aboard The Virago site!! Glad to have you.
That air filter is pretty neat. Some of us who have gone the "bobber route" have removed the stock air filter/crankcase breather system (and smog system)and have gone to K&N cone filters which work very well. I didn't have to make any carb adjustments with the new filters even after altering the exhaust system as well. Hope to see you posting regularly.
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PostAuthor: grazingazer » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:17 pm

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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: jstokes3 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:56 am

That's a very cool find. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: Wesso » Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:45 pm

Welcome to VTF JSF.
Thanks for posting and sharing that info on the air filter. Now I just hope I can find the same one down here in Melbourne AU.
It looks so much nicer and so clean compared to the oil soaked filter.
I wonder why they didn't use a paper filter to begin with?
I like the original look of the XV250 also which means that I won't be removing the chrome plated pods at any time.
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: jfred » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:12 pm

I saw this while looking for the oil filter size for my '07 XV250, and added it to my list. I was going to O'Reilly's for something for my mower anyway, and decided to get ready for an oil change. The air cleaner was $12.99 plus tax. It is available in Texas at O'Reilly's Auto Parts.
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: Dadzo » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:38 pm

Auto Zone has 'em, too. Just look for the 4" size. :banana:
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: planeman2010 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:34 pm

I installed one today on my '05 XV250, fits great. Thanks for sharing.

These are such great little bikes!

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PostAuthor: Bentspoke99 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:26 pm

JSF, I like that. Welcome to the 250 area of the forum. Would you share the manufacturer and part number for that 4-inch air filter? I'd like to do the same to mine.
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: Dadzo » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:58 am

My packaging looked different than his, but the product was the same. They are a generic aftermarket air cleaner used on 2 barrel carbs. Just look for the 4" size.

Most parts store should have them and @ competitive prices.

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PostAuthor: TransAm » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:39 am

I used the Mr. Gasket cleaner on mine too. I ordered a K&N to fit it as well. I still have the part number for the filter if anyone is interested in using this cleaner. My only complaint after the first year is that while the chrome is high quality, the stud and wing nut corrode fairly quickly.
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: Dadzo » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:44 pm

Only parts I used from the kit are the filter and lid and retained the bikes own wingnut, washer and stud.
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: jfred » Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:20 am

Dadzo wrote:Only parts I used from the kit are the filter and lid and retained the bikes own wingnut, washer and stud.

Same here. My foam filter was deteriorated, and must have restricted the air flow. With the Mr. Gasket filter installed, the 250 runs much better and it has better acceleration. It also holds cruising speed, whereas before, speed would drop in 5th gear due to wind resistance on my enterprise windshield. :bike:
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: Tom Boyte » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:36 pm

Good info. all,
Yamaha could do so much more to make these bikes better, starting with the styling and then things like these air filters etc. I have probably taken 50 pounds of "stuff" off the 09 Star my wife owns in my Bobber project and either replaced it with better looking stuff or better quality stuff or...stuff it didn't need anyway!! Have saw...will travel, this Star is gonna get lighter! :lol:
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: Riverside » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:14 pm

Got one from autozone per Dadzo's post. It's a Spectre pn4790 for $12.99. I thought that I had a bit more performance afterward and a slightly different exhaust note. The foam filter was six years old and dry as a bone. I might be breathing better. It's not a big difference and ~could~ be all in my mind.

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PostAuthor: nmw24 » Fri May 04, 2012 10:16 pm

Having read this post about changing the air filter i decided to see if i could find one when i went to auto zone for some oil. Sure enough i found one and said hell ill give it a try, b/c when i first seen what kind of air filter they had on these viragos i was kinda dumbfounded myself. Only seen these oil soaked filters on mowers before and mine was dry as a bone. So i installed it and went on a couple rides over the week and i have experienced a little more power and a little different exhaust sound. also holds higher speeds better. But wonder if its having any adverse affects on my bike b/c when i started my bike after installing the new air filter i needed to choke it and never had to before which basically what happened is i leaned my bike out and i think its enjoying the extra air its getting. But can running lean have bad long term consequences or is it better to run lean than rich?

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PostAuthor: jfred » Sat May 05, 2012 8:24 am

nmw24 wrote:Having read this post about changing the air filter i decided to see if i could find one when i went to auto zone for some oil. Sure enough i found one and said hell ill give it a try, b/c when i first seen what kind of air filter they had on these viragos i was kinda dumbfounded myself. Only seen these oil soaked filters on mowers before and mine was dry as a bone. So i installed it and went on a couple rides over the week and i have experienced a little more power and a little different exhaust sound. also holds higher speeds better. But wonder if its having any adverse affects on my bike b/c when i started my bike after installing the new air filter i needed to choke it and never had to before which basically what happened is i leaned my bike out and i think its enjoying the extra air its getting. But can running lean have bad long term consequences or is it better to run lean than rich?

Perhaps the old filter was acting as a partial choke, if it was rotten like mine and causing an airflow restriction. If performance is better, I don't know how it could harm the engine. It seems to me that the paper filter protects the engine better than the foam one to keep airborne crud out of the carb and off the cylinder walls. This is only my opinion, and I'm not a mechanic, so i haven't really answered your question with any experienced technical knowledge. $0.02
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: chev28 » Sat May 05, 2012 3:01 pm

I found one of these Mr Gasket air filters recently and put it on the bike. I think it might be the last one in Australia!

The bike defniitely feels better at high speed and seems to hold a high speed climb better. I have only been running it for a couple of hundred k's but so far so good. I will pull the plugs soon to see if it is too lean.

The only trouble now is finding replacement 4" elements but I guess I have time to keep looking. I think Rocket Industries can get them in for a price.
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: TimXCampbell » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:51 am

I ordered an air filter from Summit Racing and (apart from one question — see below) it seems to have installed just fine. Here are some photos...

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Now for my question. A neighbor gave me a spray bottle of something called “Air Filter Cleaner” which he had no use for. It says that after cleaning the air filter one should oil it. Does this kind of air filter (i.e. the one I'm using in the photos) require oiling? If so, it'd be a good thing for me to do that before I ride. If not, it'd be very bad for me to do so. Can anybody enlighten me on this matter?
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Re: Air Cleaner Stuff

PostAuthor: Tom Boyte » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:50 am

Tim,
It looks like a paper element and they usually don't require anything other than installation, none I have ever seen anyway.
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