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PostAuthor: bonestock3 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:28 pm

This Morning on the way to work I clicked up to shift from 4th to 5th and the bike didnt take the gear, it felt like I was in neutral. I shift back down to 4th and resume with no issues.

After coming to a stop, I start again at the first gear however Bike wont take 2nd, it simply wont click up past Neutral, feels like it would if I was already in 5th trying to shift up (but theres no 6th gear) .. stuck at work help, would like to use coworkers cars to pick up any equipment I might need if i can get this thing going from here. anything helps.

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Re: Not Shifting Past Neutral! 89 xv1100

PostAuthor: Jake » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:53 pm

This may be simpler than you think. Probably dry and gritty shift linkage.

Pry up the rubber joint covers on the shift linkage and flush liberally with WD40 or something similar.
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PostAuthor: bstig60 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:47 pm

Possible the linkage is out of adjustment as well...... Deleted your duplicate post in XV1100 forum. It is not necessary to post the same problem in more than one place. It is not any more likely to be seen, read or answered and it clutters up the works......
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Re: Not Shifting Past Neutral! 89 xv1100

PostAuthor: bonestock3 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:11 pm

Jake wrote:This may be simpler than you think. Probably dry and gritty shift linkage.

Pry up the rubber joint covers on the shift linkage and flush liberally with WD40 or something similar.


Rubber Joint Covers? are these exposed or inside the Crankcase?

bstig60 wrote:Possible the linkage is out of adjustment as well...... Deleted your duplicate post in XV1100 forum. It is not necessary to post the same problem in more than one place. It is not any more likely to be seen, read or answered and it clutters up the works......


Thanks, I wasn't sure if i explained correctly the first time certainly didn't want to clutter :x Just dont want to get stuck at work when its too late especially if its something easy ... how would I ascertain if it is indeed out of adjustment? the outer shift rod is a little brownish but it seems to flex well.

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Re: Not Shifting Past Neutral! 89 xv1100

PostAuthor: Jake » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:18 pm

Exposed.
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PostAuthor: Jake » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:20 pm

If it shifted ok before, it is unlikely to be out of adjustment unless you adjusted it.
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PostAuthor: bonestock3 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:00 pm

Jake wrote:Exposed.

Okay, ill douse it all with WD-40

Jake wrote:If it shifted ok before, it is unlikely to be out of adjustment unless you adjusted it.

Never touched this piece, ever.

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PostAuthor: Jake » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:13 pm

You noted the outer shift rod is a little " brownish", if you never adjusted it , then you probably haven't cleaned and lubed the joints under the boots either, most new rider overlook that area.

Dry joints cause the problem you describe and I think once you flush them out with WD 40, you'll see a big improvement.
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PostAuthor: Jake » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:53 am

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PostAuthor: bonestock3 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:00 am

OK so as for shifting, we are familiar with the Footrest Bar that blocks the Oil Filter and holds Rear brake and the shifter on the left side. We should also be familiar with the Flange bolt that holds both footrest bars at the front of the bike. On my bike, the lock nut/crown nut slipped off or wasnt there, the vibrations eventually had the flange bolt slip and let loose the Left side Footrest Bar. Now it wasnt dangling just some freeplay, upon closer inspection I noticed that due to this misalignment the heel shifter would contact the footrest itself and simply not complete the distance of travel necessary to shift.

I doused the pivots with WD-40 anyway and did notice smoother shifting.

All this allowed me to notice a couple other things;
A) though Rectifier was recently replaced... bike isnt charging right showing 12.36v with the throttle at 2500 RPM ..
B) found little metal shavings on the magnetic part of the oil drain bolt... changed oil to 20w50 Synthetic and Filter as well will be monitoring for oil leaks.

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PostAuthor: Jake » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:24 am

That wasn't so complicated after all. I knew it was a simple fix, didn't know a heel shifter was involved, so it all makes perfect sense.
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PostAuthor: bonestock3 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:08 am

Jake wrote:That wasn't so complicated after all. I knew it was a simple fix, didn't know a heel shifter was involved, so it all makes perfect sense.



Jaja no it wasn't, I suppose i've been conditioned by experience.

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PostAuthor: mark75 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:17 pm

bonestock3 wrote:" ...
A) though Rectifier was recently replaced... bike isnt charging right showing 12.36v with the throttle at 2500 RPM ... "


clean[shiny metal]/tighten both ends of the battery negative cable [make sure it is good, too with no corrosion under insulation] , make sure the reg/rec grounding is good, then charge your battery --- see if that boosts it to ~13vDC @ 2500 rpm. where it should be - your "new" reg/rec may be circling the drain ....
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Re: Not Shifting Past Neutral! 89 xv1100

PostAuthor: bonestock3 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:30 pm

mark75 wrote:
bonestock3 wrote:" ...
A) though Rectifier was recently replaced... bike isnt charging right showing 12.36v with the throttle at 2500 RPM ... "


clean[shiny metal]/tighten both ends of the battery negative cable [make sure it is good, too with no corrosion under insulation] , make sure the reg/rec grounding is good, then charge your battery --- see if that boosts it to ~13vDC @ 2500 rpm. where it should be - your "new" reg/rec may be circling the drain ....


Allow me to.. rectify..

I rode the bike on first gear for a couple of blocks into my friends shop from work... I turned her off and then back on about 3 times within 10 minutes ( trying to establish sound reason for discharge?) I tightened the Flange at the Footrest bar and turned bike on once more... turned it off.. then back on... then again so this is 5? starts total within 10min. When I tried to turn her on and come back to work- she turned on the lights but only clicked- no start.

I went back to the shop and when I came back up and tried she started... We measured Voltage at the tail light and gave me 10v. That's when we took the battery out and put on trickle charger for about an hour where it came up to 12.36.....I am hoping that having turned the bike off in such succession may have drained the battery and that since it didn't charge so long It only go to 12.36.... Is there any chance of this?


how quick should the battery charge up to 13v?

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Re: Not Shifting Past Neutral! 89 xv1100

PostAuthor: Jake » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:37 pm

bonestock3 wrote:

how quick should the battery charge up to 13v?


You need more than an hour on a trickle charger, those are typically 1.5 to 2 amp. What is the age of the battery ? Did you check the voltage at the battery while the bike was running ?
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Re: Not Shifting Past Neutral! 89 xv1100

PostAuthor: bonestock3 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:12 pm

Jake wrote:
bonestock3 wrote:

how quick should the battery charge up to 13v?


You need more than an hour on a trickle charger, those are typically 1.5 to 2 amp. What is the age of the battery ? Did you check the voltage at the battery while the bike was running ?


The one I used was a 3amp, Battery is brand spankin new been on 1000 miles. After the trickle charge I did thats where we got the 12.36v reading. But thats why I'am curious... If I put the battery on with 12.36v from the trickle.. it dropped when I started and got back up... how fast after being hooked up should it charge to 13v..

In other words.. whats the rate of charge of the Charging system?

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Re: Not Shifting Past Neutral! 89 xv1100

PostAuthor: bonestock3 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:16 am

Had the bike towed back to Hunter Motorsports at 2am last night. :ops:

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