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PostAuthor: Arjay » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:39 am

Hello all.

Considering the following for oil level solution, I dont like small window:

Find space on engine bottom that is not prone to damage (maybe side) where I can drill and tap for oil feed tube, then run line up vertically (in protected area) and switch over to neoprene to serve as glass window for oil level check.I

I would put a valve on tube to open/close. So with engine off I open valve and oil level flows through tube and is seen through neoprene section.

The oil level could then be indicated on center or side stand with separate indicator marks.

I really hate the current view window, not only for the effort of using center stand but really for the pure difficulty of seeing oil level. I dont know sometimes if the window is dirty, the oil to clean to contrast or its simply over filled.

If the metal portion of tube had low profile, say I used cylinder head oil feed tube, I might be able to find a safe low spot on engine. Snake tube close to frame and install valve, then switch to neoprene and tie wrap neoprene upward toward tank.

I think the valve would be safer on the metal tube rather than neoprene end. The valve being necessary to keep oil from shooting out when engine runs.

Thoughts appreciated
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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: bstig60 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:16 am

Seems like a lot of extra effort for little value. You still have to put the bike on the center stand to check the oil level properly.

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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: Arjay » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:53 pm

hello all.

Well I just viewed a youtube video that made me realize what the problem was all along. The bike was over-filled.

Oooops...!

Im glad cause I didnt really want to do it anyway. I hate most mods.

The oil level video showed one simple thing. After putting on center stand they started the engine. The oil level (even in over-filled state) gets sucked down to empty when the engine runs.

The magic is how easy I could see the oil level rise in oil window right after engine is shut off. I used a flashlight but could easily see the level rise because it was slow.

Before I learned this little nugget I could not tell the bike was over-filled. I could not tell because the oil is fairly transparent. So I couldnt tell if I was looking at oil, air or tarnished glass.

Amazing how a simple thing like starting then shutting off engine made the difference.

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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: Jake » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:09 pm

The cell phone works great for looking at the sight glass. Take a pic then you can zoom in to see the level. No need to get down to ground level to view.
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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: Jake » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:14 pm

This thread is worth a look dipstick to dip or not to dip
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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: faffi » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:47 pm

You could use a system like this https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-TANK- ... 2XRMH1QC6T

Would make it very easy to verify oil level even from the saddle.
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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: Flyingdog » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:32 pm

faffi wrote:You could use a system like this https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-TANK- ... 2XRMH1QC6T



Oh..Buddy! Gas or oil...that's an accident waiting to happen.:poke:
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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: Jake » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:33 pm

faffi wrote:You could use a system like this https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-TANK- ... 2XRMH1QC6T

Would make it very easy to verify oil level even from the saddle.


Don’t know about you, but I can’t lean over that far. The tube would still be as low as the sight glass is.
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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: Flyingdog » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:58 pm

Jake wrote:Don’t know about you, but I can’t lean over that far.


Try a telescopic mechanic's mirror.
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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: Jake » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:19 pm

Flyingdog wrote:
Jake wrote:Don’t know about you, but I can’t lean over that far.


Try a telescopic mechanic's mirror.


As I said earlier
Jake wrote:The cell phone works great for looking at the sight glass. Take a pic then you can zoom in to see the level. No need to get down to ground level to view.
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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: faffi » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:50 am

Jake wrote:
faffi wrote:You could use a system like this https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-TANK- ... 2XRMH1QC6T

Would make it very easy to verify oil level even from the saddle.


Don’t know about you, but I can’t lean over that far. The tube would still be as low as the sight glass is.


You can let the hose slope at lets say a 45 degree angle that will let you see the level from above.
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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: Flyingdog » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:16 am

Jake wrote:As I said earlier
Jake wrote:The cell phone works great for looking at the sight glass. Take a pic then you can zoom in to see the level. No need to get down to ground level to view.


Yep..got that. Just suggesting so person doesn't have to bend over "at all".
:olcoot: Ah.....selfie stick.
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Re: oil level solution

PostAuthor: Flyingdog » Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:14 am

faffi wrote:You can let the hose slope at lets say a 45 degree angle that will let you see the level from above.

Be sure to let us know how it turns out.... (w/pictures). :bg:

Don't see how there's enough room to do such a thing, horizontal or specially at 45°. Besides, it would have to stick out beyond (certain bikes) the footrest mounting bar, just to see it , from the saddle. :;: Still would wonder when the damn thing would spring a leak. You'd get your maximum lean angle (and then some),... alright.
Reminds, me of a pic posted (in VTF) of someone who replaced the oil drain bolt with one of those quickie drain spigots. Man..if that would ever get snapped off. :ops:
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