Forum Donations
Search
VTF Google Search
 Click Here

Possible external identifier for 1st gen upgrade hole

  • Advertisement

Post a reply

Possible external identifier for 1st gen upgrade hole

PostAuthor: rantingsmith » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:38 pm

Hi Dan,

I am posting this here as a more open question and would like to see if we can find others with more than one 1st gen engine to post what they can find.

I had a really good look at both my engines ('83 xv750se - no starter uprade hole and '85 700 - with starter upgrade hole) and the pictures on this forum as well as quite a number of pictures of engine cases available on ebay of both the 750 and 920 1st gens.

I would like to propose this:

The cases with the starter upgrade hole can be identified on the outside of the case by 2 numbers that are part of the casting of the left side case as per the arrows in this photo:

With upgrade hole XV700.png


So what I was hoping is we can gather more evidence for this hypothesis by asking people that have done the upgrade to check or better yet post a picture of the corresponding part of their engine as well as the same for engines that were a definite no starter hole..

Only then can we say for sure..

Cheers,

Rant.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
The Flying Anvil XV750SE '82 - Custom rear subframe, Bar end mirrors, New indicators, New tail light, 18" rear wheel conversion, KOSO speedo, lithium battery, custom wiring harness, clipons, modified SR500 rearsets, Lucas replica switchgear, K&N air filter, many parts powdercoated
XV920 '81- Watsonian Monaco sidecar tug project-work in progress - top end rebuild time
TR1.1 '81 Basket case project - Work in progress - Sepp Koch style frame chop plus refinement, XVS1100 jugs piston crankshaft conversion, nanno's 9 plate clutch conversion, BMW r850r rear shock, spoke wheels XS650 front & rear, twin 320mm discs with Yamaha Blue spot calipers, XT500 tank, twin Webber carbs, home built exhaust (hopefully) seat and subframe, footrest hangers...
User avatar
rantingsmith
Gold Membership
Gold Membership
 
Posts: 1350
Images: 39
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:24 pm
Location: South East UK Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 XV750SE UK Model - The Flying Anvil - awaiting better weather

1981 XV920 - sidecar tug project bike - Watsonian Monaco sidecar to be fitted

1981 TR1 - Basket case project - bought completely dismantled and teaching me mechanics 101
Sex: Male

Re: Possible external identifier for 1st gen upgrade hole

PostAuthor: totallyredvirago » Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:16 pm

rant i did post the engine numbers. the bride is put away and havent had a chance to check for the casting numbers. when i do i will post here...........dan

found the numbers.
finally have all my engine numbers. these are 3- 82 xv750's.
project----------------- 4X7 201770
red ---------------------4X7 200332
bride (one with the hole)- 4X7 303871
82 xv 750 skull on grips,levers,3rd brake and side covers.soft bags and tool bag, relay for coils, fresh inferno red, paint code PEL(red)

no time to do it right..always enough time to do it twice.
it is if is isnt :con:
If it went together easy... you forgot something.
when in doubt.... ground it out!

http://www.viragotechforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=35947 (bare bones wiring81-83 xv750)
http://www.viragotechforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=48895 (91 up xv750 bare bones)
http://www.viragotechforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=36987(84-85 xv700,1000 bare bones)

Image
User avatar
totallyredvirago
Mod
Mod
 
Posts: 14102
Images: 75
Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:40 pm
Location: altoona pa Flag
Bike year & model: 82 xv750 red
95 sportster 1200
Sex: Male

Re: Possible external identifier for 1st gen upgrade hole

PostAuthor: benuh60 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:50 pm

I have an '82 920, and I think we determined that the 920's were pretty much
ready for the upgrade. But will check mine and post within the next few days.
Image

Manuals: http://viragotechforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=220&t=31501#p279545
Wiring Diagrams: http://www.viragotech.com/wiring/
User avatar
benuh60
Silver Membership
Silver Membership
 
Posts: 593
Images: 5
Joined: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:44 pm
Location: Flaherty, Kentucky Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 xv920 Virago
Sex: Male

Re: Possible external identifier for 1st gen upgrade hole

PostAuthor: rantingsmith » Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:14 am

I don't think the engine numbers will tell as they are on the right casing but those two little numbers on the front of the left one, the one that needs to have the hole might.

Here are my engine numbers just in case:

'85 XV700 - 56E - 006535 (with hole)
'83 XV750SE - *5G5-002863* (without hole)

There are a couple of dozen or so cases (XV750 + XV920) on ebay right now with pictures good enough to see if they have the hole or not and see those front cooling ribs to check for numbers. All the ones I saw with the hole also had the numbers all the ones without, including one supposedly for a XV920 that had no numbers had no hole..

So if you have done the upgrade or could not do it because your case has no hole then post it below, try get a picture of the front of the case showing those ribs with the two little stamping numbers on the outer corner.

Cheers,

Rant.
The Flying Anvil XV750SE '82 - Custom rear subframe, Bar end mirrors, New indicators, New tail light, 18" rear wheel conversion, KOSO speedo, lithium battery, custom wiring harness, clipons, modified SR500 rearsets, Lucas replica switchgear, K&N air filter, many parts powdercoated
XV920 '81- Watsonian Monaco sidecar tug project-work in progress - top end rebuild time
TR1.1 '81 Basket case project - Work in progress - Sepp Koch style frame chop plus refinement, XVS1100 jugs piston crankshaft conversion, nanno's 9 plate clutch conversion, BMW r850r rear shock, spoke wheels XS650 front & rear, twin 320mm discs with Yamaha Blue spot calipers, XT500 tank, twin Webber carbs, home built exhaust (hopefully) seat and subframe, footrest hangers...
User avatar
rantingsmith
Gold Membership
Gold Membership
 
Posts: 1350
Images: 39
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:24 pm
Location: South East UK Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 XV750SE UK Model - The Flying Anvil - awaiting better weather

1981 XV920 - sidecar tug project bike - Watsonian Monaco sidecar to be fitted

1981 TR1 - Basket case project - bought completely dismantled and teaching me mechanics 101
Sex: Male

Re: Possible external identifier for 1st gen upgrade hole

PostAuthor: totallyredvirago » Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:55 am

rant
i believe you are on to some thing here. i took pics of the bride and there are 2 numbers. they look to be 3 and 10.
IMG_20141007_072811.jpg


this is a pic of red. no numbers and no hole............dan
IMG_20141007_072920.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
82 xv 750 skull on grips,levers,3rd brake and side covers.soft bags and tool bag, relay for coils, fresh inferno red, paint code PEL(red)

no time to do it right..always enough time to do it twice.
it is if is isnt :con:
If it went together easy... you forgot something.
when in doubt.... ground it out!

http://www.viragotechforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=35947 (bare bones wiring81-83 xv750)
http://www.viragotechforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=48895 (91 up xv750 bare bones)
http://www.viragotechforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=36987(84-85 xv700,1000 bare bones)

Image
User avatar
totallyredvirago
Mod
Mod
 
Posts: 14102
Images: 75
Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:40 pm
Location: altoona pa Flag
Bike year & model: 82 xv750 red
95 sportster 1200
Sex: Male

Re: Possible external identifier for 1st gen upgrade hole

PostAuthor: rantingsmith » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:22 am

TTT
The Flying Anvil XV750SE '82 - Custom rear subframe, Bar end mirrors, New indicators, New tail light, 18" rear wheel conversion, KOSO speedo, lithium battery, custom wiring harness, clipons, modified SR500 rearsets, Lucas replica switchgear, K&N air filter, many parts powdercoated
XV920 '81- Watsonian Monaco sidecar tug project-work in progress - top end rebuild time
TR1.1 '81 Basket case project - Work in progress - Sepp Koch style frame chop plus refinement, XVS1100 jugs piston crankshaft conversion, nanno's 9 plate clutch conversion, BMW r850r rear shock, spoke wheels XS650 front & rear, twin 320mm discs with Yamaha Blue spot calipers, XT500 tank, twin Webber carbs, home built exhaust (hopefully) seat and subframe, footrest hangers...
User avatar
rantingsmith
Gold Membership
Gold Membership
 
Posts: 1350
Images: 39
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:24 pm
Location: South East UK Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 XV750SE UK Model - The Flying Anvil - awaiting better weather

1981 XV920 - sidecar tug project bike - Watsonian Monaco sidecar to be fitted

1981 TR1 - Basket case project - bought completely dismantled and teaching me mechanics 101
Sex: Male

Re: Possible external identifier for 1st gen upgrade hole

PostAuthor: rantingsmith » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:51 pm

TTT
The Flying Anvil XV750SE '82 - Custom rear subframe, Bar end mirrors, New indicators, New tail light, 18" rear wheel conversion, KOSO speedo, lithium battery, custom wiring harness, clipons, modified SR500 rearsets, Lucas replica switchgear, K&N air filter, many parts powdercoated
XV920 '81- Watsonian Monaco sidecar tug project-work in progress - top end rebuild time
TR1.1 '81 Basket case project - Work in progress - Sepp Koch style frame chop plus refinement, XVS1100 jugs piston crankshaft conversion, nanno's 9 plate clutch conversion, BMW r850r rear shock, spoke wheels XS650 front & rear, twin 320mm discs with Yamaha Blue spot calipers, XT500 tank, twin Webber carbs, home built exhaust (hopefully) seat and subframe, footrest hangers...
User avatar
rantingsmith
Gold Membership
Gold Membership
 
Posts: 1350
Images: 39
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:24 pm
Location: South East UK Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 XV750SE UK Model - The Flying Anvil - awaiting better weather

1981 XV920 - sidecar tug project bike - Watsonian Monaco sidecar to be fitted

1981 TR1 - Basket case project - bought completely dismantled and teaching me mechanics 101
Sex: Male

Re: Possible external identifier for 1st gen upgrade hole

PostAuthor: benuh60 » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:08 am

My daughter wasn't home, and I couldn't find her camera. Sorry, I don't own a digital camera.
But my '82 920J has the same 3 & 10 markings as posted in earlier pics.
Image

Manuals: http://viragotechforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=220&t=31501#p279545
Wiring Diagrams: http://www.viragotech.com/wiring/
User avatar
benuh60
Silver Membership
Silver Membership
 
Posts: 593
Images: 5
Joined: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:44 pm
Location: Flaherty, Kentucky Flag
Bike year & model: 1982 xv920 Virago
Sex: Male

Re: Possible external identifier for 1st gen upgrade hole

PostAuthor: stanbu » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:39 pm

Checked my motor the other day. 1983 xv750. I have the numbers 3 and 10. Looked for the hole and yes there is one. Guess I'll be doing the upgrade if and when I ever get the time to rebuild the bike

Stan
Stan
Qld Australia
1983 XV750
User avatar
stanbu
Junior Membership
Junior Membership
 
Posts: 49
Images: 1
Joined: Tue May 11, 2004 3:58 am
Location: Australia Flag
Bike year & model: 1983 xv750
Sex: Male



Post a reply


  • Advertisement

Return to Totallyredvirago

Who is online

Registered users: No registered users