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One sick Magna

PostAuthor: faffi » Thu May 03, 2018 3:48 pm

And not in a good way. No need to watch until the 6 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzWD-6wG5bo
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PostAuthor: jonno51 » Fri May 04, 2018 3:13 am

What a tube!
Tough on chrome, tough on the causes of chrome :;:
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PostAuthor: Flyingdog » Fri May 04, 2018 4:16 am

Renews one's faith that this ole world will never run outta blunt tools. Sorry..never made it past the night riding scene.
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PostAuthor: faffi » Fri May 04, 2018 6:34 am

Video was horrible enough to be involuntarily funny at times :;:

It was more the acceleration comparison against the Bolt 950 that caught my attention; the supposedly 120 hp strong V65 barely inched away from the supposedly 52 hp strong XVS :bg:
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PostAuthor: jonno51 » Fri May 04, 2018 8:04 am

faffi wrote:Video was horrible enough to be involuntarily funny at times :;:

It was more the acceleration comparison against the Bolt 950 that caught my attention; the supposedly 120 hp strong V65 barely inched away from the supposedly 52 hp strong XVS :bg:


I saw the V65 reviewed somewhere as " OK in a straight line, in all other situations an excellent remedy for constipation".
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Re: One sick Magna

PostAuthor: faffi » Fri May 04, 2018 8:36 am

It wasn't really a bad bike, handling similar to the V-Max. As long as you rode it normally, it was fine. Use all the power and cornering clearance? Yes, could be interesting :o:
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PostAuthor: chrismalm » Fri May 04, 2018 10:05 am

I guess some people just ride their bikes till the wheels fall off. No pride of ownership.
I had an '85 V65 Sabre. Scary fast but too tall and top heavy for me, and I'm 6'3".
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Re: One sick Magna

PostAuthor: faffi » Fri May 04, 2018 2:46 pm

Same powerplant, theoretically better chassis than the Magna. If it wasn't so hard to work on and didn't have the issues with the cams/valve lifters and cam chain tensioners, I wouldn't mind a 700/750 Sabre from 1985, when it had normal instruments. Although even that had more motor than chassis; a police officer was killed when his 1982 VF750S (V45) spat him off with no warning doing 100 mph. A very experienced riding instructor was hired to see what could have happened. Riding an identical bike, he was spat off doing 90 mph in a straight line on a deserted air strip. He survived with a broken leg. The chassis couldn't cope with the small sidecases and handlebar mounted fairing. When MOTORRAD performed their long term test (16k miles) the subframe broke twice on tour because it was too fragile for the weight of passenger and luggage. By 1985, the frame had been strengthened and the suspension stiffened a bit to make it a better machine.
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PostAuthor: chrismalm » Fri May 04, 2018 7:20 pm

I read the premature valve train wear was on the early bikes and was caused by low rpm riding. Honda supposedly increased the top end lubrication by mid-84. So, it appears the '85 is preferable.
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Re: One sick Magna

PostAuthor: faffi » Sat May 05, 2018 4:18 pm

According to the American development riders doing the chores for Honda during development, they let the engines idle for 15-20 minutes before taking off, and claimed they never had any issues with the top ends :con:

I know one VF750F ruined its cams after less than 50 miles when the owner was in a hurry and took off rapidly after starting the engine cold.

Personally, I don't know the real culprit, but poor quality control seems to be a real possibility - I know one local guy who got more than 200,000 miles out of his VF1000F2 with minimal maintenance and no damage whatsoever. And the old VFs still turn up for sale to this day, so they cannot have been universally bad. But there's no denying they were more troubled than average.
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